tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3289688322615470169.post9007061359120783529..comments2024-03-29T15:43:54.557+08:00Comments on Tony White - Graffiti: Nanny state - Part 2Tony Whitehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07034697658099080220noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3289688322615470169.post-72469361338658884232009-07-17T11:42:38.010+08:002009-07-17T11:42:38.010+08:00Oh Geez! Still didn't get it right. See now ho...Oh Geez! Still didn't get it right. See now how amazing it is that i passed?roseshttp://mymindurplace.blogstream.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3289688322615470169.post-25480639420760905152009-07-17T11:39:23.385+08:002009-07-17T11:39:23.385+08:00"If we don't understand Australian policy..."If we don't understand Australian policy nor show any interest in it, then we choose by default – through a willingness to be complacent about our rights – to live as free citizens..."<br /><br />Supposed to read<br /><br />"... then we choose by default to relibquish - through a willingness to be complacent about our rights – any right to live as free citizens..."roseshttp://mymindurplace.blogstream.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3289688322615470169.post-44577597251090741212009-07-17T10:54:52.651+08:002009-07-17T10:54:52.651+08:00Aww thanks Tony. It was Philosophy. Impossible and...Aww thanks Tony. It was Philosophy. Impossible and more! Perhaps the only way to do the ‘humanly impossible’, is simply to be human and do them regardless of how impossible the task is. We're amazing creatures Tony. <br /><br />I was just wondering…<br /><br />Is a policeman a public servant? And, are they not then an employee of us? I think that includes anyone who is a government employ (of any kind) too.<br /><br />Another thought – you have the power here (in your blog) to delete comments. Even when they're you're own. So you police your blog pretty much don't you?<br /><br />So wouldn’t it follow that, here, in our country (Australia), our political leaders along with those who police or ‘keep the peace’ of our country, have a power we alone allow them to have.<br /><br />Perhaps, if the assumption or question of our innocence is ever brought up, in the way you’ve described, and we’ve not behaved in an antisocial manner – then scream bloody murder! Make a noise! I would certainly expect that we understand, at least hold a basic working knowledge of our constitution and move constitutionally against such an ‘invasion of privacy’, ‘bullying’ and/or, any move to discredit our character.<br /><br />Do you know your constitutional rights? Like, actually know our constitution? Or at least know it enough to find something when needed in the pages and pages of ink?<br /><br />If we don't understand Australian policy nor show any interest in it, then we choose by default – through a willingness to be complacent about our rights – to live as free citizens; well, at least as free as freedom can possibly exist to be in any social state. If we know and understand our constitutional rights then scream them to the high heavens and force the bullies to tow the line.<br /><br />Its not a matter of who's the boss. Simply a matter of whether our ideal of freedom is important enough to protect or not. Learn how things work and then… govern by bringing the authorities in to line of “our” (their and our – as the ‘people’) ideals.<br /><br />I do have to say though; it appears that I am unwilling or complacent to do anything about the drug trade, slavery, and other human and non-human exploitation. I just don’t know how to deal with such things so I must say that I do feel safer knowing someone is out there (empowered) and doing what they can to keep an amount of peace. Perhaps, yes, the abuse of such powers is intolerable. <br /><br />Holy Smokes - that was a long one!roseshttp://mymindurplace.blogstream.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3289688322615470169.post-55496727280828306752009-07-17T08:51:29.248+08:002009-07-17T08:51:29.248+08:00I concur with your sentiments Kenoath,
I don'...I concur with your sentiments Kenoath,<br /><br />I don't deal in illicit drugs nor do I transport them from A to B.<br /><br />I am innocently walking along the street and a policeman with his dog see me. I am not doing anything anti social nor am I intoxicated. At that point the policeman assumes that I am carrying illegal drugs. If he did not assume that then he would have no reason to search me.<br /><br />I object to his assumption and I also object to being searched when I have done nothing anti social or illegal. He moves up to me and searches me by getting his dog to sniff me. <br /><br />I am powerless to do anything because the goevrnment has said that he has the power to assume I am crarrying drugs and to search me against my will even when I have done nothing wrong.<br /><br />As you said kenoath,<br /><br />What's next?<br /><br />GraffitiTony Whitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07034697658099080220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3289688322615470169.post-78211769014631419182009-07-17T08:43:25.879+08:002009-07-17T08:43:25.879+08:00OK Roses,
Congratulations! I am glad you passed!
...OK Roses,<br />Congratulations! I am glad you passed!<br />I would probably more glad if I knew what you actually had passed!<br /><br />Its friday here and I suppose it is Friday where you are as well. The weekend looms for us both Yaaaaay!<br /><br />Cheers<br /><br />TonyTony Whitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07034697658099080220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3289688322615470169.post-9694435591069215052009-07-17T08:04:09.038+08:002009-07-17T08:04:09.038+08:00Tony! Tony! Guess what! Guess...
Ok - i'll te...Tony! Tony! Guess what! Guess...<br /><br />Ok - i'll tell you...<br /><br />I passed! Actually passed! *sigh*<br /><br />Oh my goodness! I'm giggily all over!roseshttp://mymindurplace.blogstream.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3289688322615470169.post-87717993515702135002009-07-16T16:12:28.981+08:002009-07-16T16:12:28.981+08:00It would be good to see a group of dog owners who ...It would be good to see a group of dog owners who wish to protest against the "Nanny State". They can all circulate around police headquarters with their dogs sniffing any policemen and their cars coming from the building. <br /><br />I wouldnt think there would be a law against that as long as one registers their protest with the police first I think. I am not against the police busting drug dealers however in my mind they are crossing the lines of personal privacy. <br /><br />kenoathAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3289688322615470169.post-16884247365697276902009-07-16T11:50:50.905+08:002009-07-16T11:50:50.905+08:00I like most days Tony. We're ok. Its ok.
Just...I like most days Tony. We're ok. Its ok.<br /><br />Just after i left you, a lovely lady came to pick me up and take me to meet another lovely lady at a coffee shop for morning tea. Hanging with lovely ladies is quite... lovely. I'm really not a lovely lady but i do enjoy lovely company and the morning tea was totally yum!<br /><br />This Thursday is quite a favorite day.<br /><br />I'm a christian. Or its what i know the best. I can't seem to put the thing down. But i'm reading about some stuff in philosophy class that is so nice. Living in an enclosed box ones whole life can make one a little... insular. Wow! Life is so big and variety filled.<br /><br />This Thursday has been a really nice day.<br /><br />Thank you for being alive. I so appreciate it.<br /><br />... rosesroseshttp://mymindurplace.blogstream.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3289688322615470169.post-74699764048084942932009-07-16T09:13:18.245+08:002009-07-16T09:13:18.245+08:00OK Roses,
Sounds like Thursday is not your favori...OK Roses,<br /><br />Sounds like Thursday is not your favorite day. <br />Not too sure what you are saying but it is, Go Grrrl!Tony Whitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07034697658099080220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3289688322615470169.post-53842881167663471472009-07-16T08:13:16.080+08:002009-07-16T08:13:16.080+08:00So... you're a sub. I've read a little on ...So... you're a sub. I've read a little on BDSM. I don't understand it and the pain element frightens me a little.roseshttp://mymindurplace.blogstream.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3289688322615470169.post-87012394536066652592009-07-16T08:08:02.948+08:002009-07-16T08:08:02.948+08:00Privacy is becoming a less known entity these days...Privacy is becoming a less known entity these days Tony - yes, i'm with you there. But didn't you already explain why that is in the recently posted "Establishing Independance" post? Actually - practically every post you've ever written (that i know of)?<br /><br />Or are you just having a rant in plain english - you know, with out all the psycho-babble stuff in it? I think its easier to understand that way. I really like the way you show us in Sructural or Functional form and then talk about it in relative less-psychological form.<br /><br />That is what you're doing isn't it? Am i getting you? Or have i totally missed the boat?!<br /><br />Thank goodness its... ohh no! Its only Thursday! *Huff*roseshttp://mymindurplace.blogstream.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3289688322615470169.post-68836612638714685682009-07-15T23:35:28.174+08:002009-07-15T23:35:28.174+08:00No kahless,
I don't know who citzen smith is
...No kahless,<br /><br />I don't know who citzen smith is<br /><br />and I hope I am submissive, OPPPS!! Subversive<br /><br />GraffitiTony Whitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07034697658099080220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3289688322615470169.post-4673524404368273782009-07-15T23:32:03.657+08:002009-07-15T23:32:03.657+08:00Do you remember Citizen Smith?Do you remember Citizen Smith?Kahlesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00500615451909999365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3289688322615470169.post-14393926128951031412009-07-15T23:30:28.536+08:002009-07-15T23:30:28.536+08:00We all know you are a subversive Graffiti.
;-))We all know you are a subversive Graffiti. <br />;-))Kahlesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00500615451909999365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3289688322615470169.post-41600597110411881762009-07-15T17:21:45.451+08:002009-07-15T17:21:45.451+08:00Crickey, its the generation gap clunking for me To...Crickey, its the generation gap clunking for me Tony. Uunless that is people of today are generally conforming. <br /><br />kenoathAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3289688322615470169.post-69575118315988919862009-07-15T16:57:22.859+08:002009-07-15T16:57:22.859+08:00Hello Kenoath
good to see you back in the world ...Hello Kenoath <br /><br />good to see you back in the world of cyber space.<br /><br />what is next is a very good question? From what I have seen I think I am a bit of a lone voice. I don't see a lot of others, particularly the young, making the same protest that I am here. So if the police keep pushing for more powers then I assume they will be given them unless people start saying no, and that is not happening at the moment.<br /><br />TonyTony Whitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07034697658099080220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3289688322615470169.post-987395752434913042009-07-15T16:52:05.258+08:002009-07-15T16:52:05.258+08:00I must admit to being angry about the police using...I must admit to being angry about the police using sniffer dogs recently. Its not that I walk around with drugs, however it does seem to the idea of the police state.God knows what could be next?<br /><br />kenoathAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3289688322615470169.post-46320141802312594382009-07-15T16:47:53.327+08:002009-07-15T16:47:53.327+08:00I guess in these circumstances Grafitti, at least ...I guess in these circumstances Grafitti, at least they can differentiate between the non users and "users" of internet porn. I guess that we will have to come to terms with less privacy in our daily lives and the possibility of being erroneously suspected of such crimes. I wouldnt like my identity to be stolen on the internet.<br /><br />I think it would be worse being investigated by the CCC. <br /><br />kenoathAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3289688322615470169.post-13551360536337487312009-07-15T16:01:06.039+08:002009-07-15T16:01:06.039+08:00My point Roses?
Once upon a time there was a thin...My point Roses?<br /><br />Once upon a time there was a thing called privacy.<br /><br />Now if I go to some website quite innocently that does not mean I am a perve or a terrorist but the government seems to think that I now have to prove that I am not.<br /><br />Also I can be walking the streets completely innocently and be given a random search for drugs by having some dog shove its nose in my groin and sniff around. Once upon a time I was presumed to be innocent but now they presume I am guilty and I have to pass a drug search to prove it<br /><br />graffitiTony Whitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07034697658099080220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3289688322615470169.post-16263791961801956712009-07-15T15:22:56.807+08:002009-07-15T15:22:56.807+08:00Tony,
"Would this have resulted in my name b...Tony,<br /><br />"Would this have resulted in my name being sent by Bigpond to some policing body? Is my name on some police file somewhere?"<br /><br />Yeah - probably *Shrugs*<br /><br />"If I am surfing the net and at some point end up at an “Osama is a great guy” website will my name be passed on then."<br /><br />Well if that's the way things work then - yeah, probably.<br /><br />"Others than myself occasionally use my computer, so what have they been doing on it?"<br /><br />I honestly wouldn't have the foggiest idea.<br /><br />Your point is?<br /><br />… rosesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com